Show Notes

Rebecca: Welcome to Hello Rebecca Ray, our collective home for courage, growth and human to human connection. I’m your host, Dr. Rebecca Ray, human, clinical psychologist, author, and educator. I know only too well how fear, comparison, and self doubt can stifle your potential. This podcast is all about brave and meaningful living and how you can make your authentic contribution to the world today and every day.

Rebecca: Lovely one so welcome to episode number 18. I am so happy to have you here. In this episode, I want to explore fear. You know, that’s one of my favourite topics, right? But specifically today I want to talk about how it showed up for me in business because the truth is, there’s been times when my experience of business has been defined by fear.

Rebecca: And it turns out that the things I was frightened of have never warranted the level of fee that I’ve experienced. So I want to dive into that I want to talk about the things that I’ve been scared of that actually didn’t really need to be scared of because it might help you too. But first I want to shout out LCR 0134. LCR left this beautiful review after listening to the podcast.

LCR says, a heartfelt gift to self. I adore this podcast. Rebecca is so accessible and delivers serious content with an abundance of warmth and genuine love. I find some of the content uncomfortable to hear. But with Rebecca’s gentle encouragement, I’ve come to understand these are the parts most relevant to me. Thank you for your work.

Rebecca: I just think that that is the most beautiful review and I really want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to LCR, I think it takes a lot of courage to be able to sit with information that sometimes times difficult to digest, especially if it’s confronting.

Rebecca: And I just love that this person has been able to identify that because I think sometimes the most growth that we can access is from the things that we are able to confront within ourselves. So let’s start. Let’s dive into the things that I’ve been scared of all my fees in business and beyond and how they’ve worked out.

Rebecca: The first thing I want to talk about is something that has showed up for me over and over again, which is the fear of selling and putting a price on my work. So to give you some background, before I stepped into online business, I was in business in private practice as a clinical psychologist. So technically, I’ve been in business or had my own business in some form or another.

Rebecca: Since 2007, so that’s 13 years. In that time, my experience of business started off just learning how to run a business when I was in clinical practice. So just learning how to meet the Australian tax officers requirements for a business and how that all showed up. And what happened was because I was good at my job, I really didn’t struggle to get clients in private practice. So I ended up with quite a thriving practice. And I didn’t have to think too much about money coming in and money going out because it was always there, the referral stream was always there, the income was always there. And I had systems in place, which meant that everything just flowed as it should.

Rebecca: But then I got burnt out. And that changed the trajectory of my life. And in doing so, it meant that I actually had to step away from private practice and find something else to do with my life.

Rebecca: And I absolutely love psychology. It’s one of the great loves of my life. I love this work. And I had to find another way of how I could use my knowledge and my training and my skills as a psychologist without having to work one on one with clients because I didn’t have the emotional bandwidth for that anymore. And that’s how I came to the world of online business, and also the world of writing books. And so that’s what I do. Now. I educate using my skills and my training and my knowledge in psychological strategies, especially on things like overcoming fear and living meaningfully and not self sabotaging in a way that stops you from living the fullest expression of your life possible.

Rebecca: But what that meant was in private practice, I got really used to charging a certain amount for my sessions. It’s just something that I did people expect.

Rebecca: To pay a certain amount, they’re often informed of the price before they got in the door. And I had a receptionist who took the money, and that was it. But when I went into online business, I now was producing educational materials that I had to put a price on, and that I had to market and that I had to sell to an audience that otherwise would never have known what I had available.

Rebecca: I think if you don’t sell, then what business do you have?

Rebecca: So there is that little block isn’t there.

Rebecca: And the thing that I realised is that although I had sold while I was in private practice, essentially selling a service, I’d gotten so used to it that there was absolutely no fee there. But when I had to start putting a price on the work that I was putting out into the world, all of a sudden I was gripped by fear.

Rebecca: I was gripped by it when it started. To become about having to pitch something that I’d created to my audience.

Rebecca: And the thing is, I’ve put this first because it’s not a fear that I’ve gotten over. So every time I come up with something new and new offer some kind of new topic that I want to put something out into the world on. I still experienced that fear.

Rebecca: But I think what’s happened is that I’ve learned that there is no way that I can make an impact on the world and help the people that are meant to be helped by my particular perspective on things if I don’t sell.

Rebecca: So my fear around putting a price on my work and selling have evolved in this particular way now, where I frame them as being the gateway to making the impact that I want to make.

Rebecca: And putting a price on my work has evolved to such that I now know there’s no possible way I can sustain this if I don’t put a decent price on my work. And on the value that I know is there in the work that I do.

Rebecca: There were times when I started out where I gave away so much free content or very, very valuable content for a really low price. Now, I’m not saying there’s not a place for that I still give away a lot of free content.

Rebecca: But I am saying that there comes a time where you really need to stop and put a price on your work so that people that are exposed to your work, also value it. Because if you don’t, then the realities are that business costs money. It costs money to create all this content and keep it alive on the internet. And if you don’t have the money coming in to be able to sustain those costs, then there’s no way that you can keep making the impact that you’re out to make.

Rebecca: So I had to get over myself. I had to get over the fact that part of me was really driven to be able to offer products to people at a really low price so that they’re affordable. But the thing is, if I can’t afford to feed my family while making my products affordable, then how am I even going to stay here doing this?

Rebecca: So I really had to look myself in the mirror and think, how long do I want to be doing this? And the answer is I actually really love it for me right now, I don’t see an end to me doing this.

Rebecca: But it has to be sustainable.

Rebecca: And so that fear, even though sometimes it’s still there, particularly around selling and pitching, I don’t love that.

Rebecca: The fear around it is that if I don’t do it, then I wouldn’t even be here doing this podcast.

Rebecca: The next fear that I’ve had is having no money. And this has probably been the fear that’s gripped me the tightest.

Rebecca: It’s showed up when I so when I left clinical practice, I left a really solid six figure income that I didn’t have to advertise for. And I completely walked away with nothing.

Rebecca: Because if I’m not seeing clients and there’s no money coming in, right?

Rebecca: So I walked away not knowing what I would do. And then when I started putting my workout online, it there is a, I guess, a teething period where you’re developing an audience and you’re developing your voice and honing your message.

Rebecca: And while you’re doing that, it takes time to build an income. And so there were times where this fear of having no money was actually realised. And you know what? I didn’t die.

Rebecca: I wasn’t actually scared that if we had no money, I would die. But I was certainly so frightened of not having any money that I was constantly thinking. When do I get to the point when no money means I have to stop this, you know.

Rebecca: But there were times where I literally have had no money, no money to reinvest no money to pay my bills, no money to be able to outsource tasks.

Rebecca: And what’s happened is, somehow, money always shows up, whether it’s through help from others, whether it’s through being able at the last moment to think of a new way to offer something to my audience, or whether it’s through being able to look at my money situation from a different perspective.

Rebecca: Having no money has meant that I’ve faced the rock bottom of I think my deepest business fear and come out the other side, knowing that actually focusing on having no money never helped me to make more money. That’s really interesting. Actually, it’s, it’s gotten me to the point where all it did was sharpen my focus to scarcity sharpen my focus to all the bills that might be showing up at any particular time, and really shift me away from but what’s possible here, what’s possible to make more money?

Rebecca: What could we sell?

Rebecca: Because that’s we have done that at times, especially during COVID at the beginning of COVID times, what could we sell so that there’s just a little bit extra money to help us cross the line this week, when you face the biggest fear that you have in business and realise that it’s not the end, then possibilities show up where you least expect them. And that’s what I’ve learned from having no money.


We reach some kind of point. Now that point can be, like I said, an age based milestone where you start to reflect on life and whether or not there’s something more and what’s the point to it all, or it can be a trigger in terms of an event. So sometimes people have some kind of negative event, usually that occurs in life. And that makes them rethink everything, assess their own mortality, and consider, where’s my life really headed? And what’s this all about?


Rebecca: I’ve also feed receiving judgement, criticism and bad reviews from my work. That was one of my biggest fears. If I start putting my work out online, then what are people going to say? What happens if people don’t like it? And you know what? I have been judged. I have been criticised, I have received bad reviews. I’ve even been humiliated.

Rebecca: There were times where I’ve put up videos and for those of you that perhaps have never noticed or not seen me on video before I have a lazy eye so I’ve had it since I was a child, probably since birth. And when I’m tired, my I slides one of them slide I actually can’t remember which one of these right now, I have to look in the mirror.

Rebecca: I’ve had people criticise my books, I’ve had people criticise my courses. I’ve had people criticise my free content. In fact, just yesterday, I came across a comment on my Facebook page from someone that said, I watched your webinar and I was really disappointed to see that you pitched your course in the webinar. You should be more honest about that. You know what?

Rebecca: One of the things that happens when you receive judgement and criticism and bad reviews at the beginning of business is that you can become convinced that that’s the end that one person had a bad opinion of your particular work. And so it must mean that globally, your work is not good enough or bad or substandard in some way. But the thing that I have learned over time, this fear is just one of those fears that if you can’t learn to sit with it and tolerate it, then you can’t enjoy the benefits of online business and making the biggest impact that you possibly can make to a large audience far bigger than I could ever make seeing people one on one. And that’s because you just can’t please everyone. So that person who commented on my Facebook page yesterday, probably has no idea about how online marketing happens. Perhaps has a sense of enticed about how much content she should receive for free, and how dare I pitch her product at the end of giving her half an hour or 40 minutes worth of free valuable content on a particular topic. And to that I say, you know what, I have a right to put a value on my work, I have a right to offer work to the world and be paid for it. Because my time and my knowledge and my wisdom is valuable. And if she doesn’t think so, because in that moment, she thought that she should get perhaps a full hours worth of content for free without having to sit through a pitch, then that’s okay. She’s not my people.

Rebecca: And perhaps she’s not the type of person that wants to sit through content in that particular way. It doesn’t fit for her. And that’s okay to what this fear has taught me is that if you keep showing up expecting to be perfect for everyone, then you can’t serve the people that you are the person for as well as you possibly could if you just focused on them. So in terms of bad reviews, I don’t read them anymore.

Rebecca: I don’t I do read my podcast reviews because I like to shout them out in future episodes. I haven’t had a negative one of those yet. I’m sure it’s coming, because that’s what you sign up for when you put work out into the world. And I no longer have contact with my daily emails. So my team manages my inbox. And that means that if you email me It goes to my team and not to me directly. And that means that people are complaining or people who are not happy with something that they’ve come into contact with as a result of my work goes through my team first. So there’s a filter and a buffer there.

RebeccaThen the needs to be a type of thickened skin that you develop so that you choose whose opinions count. And I say that as someone who’s quite sensitive, I’m not saying that you need to harden against your entire audience. I’m saying that you just need to define for yourself who your audience is, who matters. I’ve been scared of bookkeeping.

Rebecca: And I think this is really important to talk about because there are some fees that I’ve had that would just really loud that would show up over and over again as part of business. And this showed up particularly when I was trying to do all the things in business and I’ll talk about that in a moment. But I was really scared about bookkeeping. I just hate it. I hate numbers. I don’t mind metrics. But the actual act of bookkeeping makes me want to stab myself with a pin. I just really don’t enjoy it at all. And it took me a long time to realise that there are some tasks that, uh, so emotionally draining for me, and I’m sure for everyone, that the investment in getting someone to do it for you getting an expert in to do it for you, is worth 100 fold the relief that you feel by not having to do it yourself. And that was one of those things, but I feel that I needed to do in a different way. So I did spend some time trying to do my own bookkeeping, or at least trying to do part of it. And what would happen is always, there would come a point where I would hand over the bookkeepers file to my accountant and my accountant would be like, Oh my goodness, the bookkeeper did not do a good job.

Rebecca: There’s all these things missing. And it would be because I was actually being cheap, I was trying to be frugal. And that meant that I experienced that old saying that you get what you pay for. And I was paying a bookkeeper, perhaps to do a more complex job than she was skilled for. And it wasn’t until I started paying a certain amount to a different bookkeeper, who I interviewed after I finally knew exactly the skills that she needed, but I got to a point where that fear has completely disappeared because I now have someone who’s amazing who does my books, and I don’t even have to think about it anymore. But that was a real fear. And you know what, it was a fear that almost stopped me in business in online business as well, not so much in my private practice business, because I had a bookkeeper back then, but things were much simpler in terms of my accounting setup. Now things are a little bit more complex. I really learned from that fear, but if you don’t have the system gyms in place to be able to outsource things that actually make you feel sick. And bookkeeping makes me feel sick have a good that if I’ve got to deal with it, then you’re not going to get very far.

Rebecca: I was also scared of having nothing original to offer that showed up a lot. When I first started putting my workout online A few years ago, I really thought that I had to come up with this never seen before never done before framework about how to deal with the topics that I put out into the world. And you know what? It took me a while to learn this. took me a while to accept this. And not to feel like a fraud, but nothing is original out there. Nothing. Perspectives are rarely original. Thoughts are rarely original topics are certainly unoriginal.

Rebecca: But what I learned is that what I have to bring to the topic is me. And no one can do that better than I can. But it took me a while of putting out my work in my particular way to understand that my particular insights are valuable because they’re mine. Not because anything that I do is groundbreaking. I’m certainly not narcissistic enough to think that. But what I do know is that my particular style and voice is needed by some people. And that is my originality.

Rebecca: So that fee no longer exists for me, because I have a belief in my own voice. I was frightened when I first started in business about creating content across all platforms. I thought I had to be on Instagram and Facebook and Twitter and Pinterest and YouTube and LinkedIn and all the things, and I had to create unique content for every single one of those platforms, and that I had to create content in different forms for each of those platforms. And to that, I will say, That’s crap.

Rebecca: It’s rubbish. There still might be voices out there that tell you that this is the way that you should do it. My answer to that is absolutely not. Because all of that content ends up being free. And you’re not signing up in business for a job just making free content. I mean, some people might do it as a hobby. Great. Note that I’ve got no issue with that. But what I’m saying is in business, do you want to be spending all your time creating content for every single platform that’s unique in its form, or its style or its shape for that particular platform? Because when are you going to have time to create your actual offers.

Rebecca: When are you going to have time to have a life? And I don’t know about you, but that’s why I’m in business. I’m in business to actually have a life to make an impact, but also to create a life for myself and my family that is fit for our dreams. And I can’t do that if I’ve got to create a piece of content for every single platform and have followers everywhere I go, just know. But initially, I got really scared about that and the effort required and I tried, and the harder I tried, you know what the level of the quality I was putting out, and the more exhausted I was becoming with trying to keep up with everything and every platform.

Rebecca: That fear I now know to be just known and feared I have to hold.

Rebecca: It’s so much better to niche down on the platform. That’s your favourite the one. Where it doesn’t feel like so much effort than it is to try to be across all things. You don’t have to be across all platforms to succeed in business. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

Rebecca: Now what else was I afraid of? tech? Oh, my goodness tech. You know, it took me so long to put my first course out into the world. Under my own name, not happy habits. Happy habits was my first course. But my first course under Rebecca Ray.

Rebecca: It took me so long because I was so scared of the tech. I was scared, of course, hosting platforms. I was scared of unique links. I was scared of shortening links. I was scared of zoom and how to operate zoom calls. I was scared of how to host a webinar. Oh my goodness, the fear around how do you go live on Facebook? Which direction should my phone be landscape or portrait. If I’m going to go live, how do I join someone’s life? Oh my goodness, the fee was less.

Rebecca: How many times did I talk to you, Bob, about tech and all the things that I found difficult at the time at the beginning, put your head in your hands and you just check in, can you do it for me? I would. She’s right. I would be paralysed when some new piece of tech came up. And it would take me hours and hours and hours of time that would have been far better spent elsewhere, trying to be across this tech. Now. I have people that do that for me. And this is where I’m frustrated that I spent that energy being scared of tech because if you get paralysed around something like that, then it can stop you in your tracks. It stops you from being able to put your work out into the world and anything that roadblocks you like that is a problem.

Rebecca: And so what I want to say that fear is that I learned that. The problem is, if I try to master all the tech, I’d never have time to actually create the work that I want to offer you.

Rebecca: I’ve been frightened of mistakes paralysed by mistakes, spelling, grammar, links that are broken emails going to the wrong person. And you know what? I’ve done it all. I’ve made all those mistakes. And in some cases, I’ve been crucified for them. I had someone click on a link in a free challenge I was offering and the link was broken and it went to a checkout page that was completely unrelated to the challenge. And she took exception to that and rather just accepting my apology that it was a broken link. She then threatened to report me She threatened to put bad feedback all over the place.

Rebecca: I mean, there are just some people that take this stuff, really personally if they have, perhaps some trust issues, or they’ve been disappointed in content that they’ve consumed before, but I didn’t die again. I mean, it didn’t feel great. I don’t love mistakes. But the thing that I’ve also learned from this particular fear is that if you don’t accept that mistakes are part of the process. Then in all the energy you spend trying to make something mistake free, how much time has gone passed, in which you could have just put the thing out there and be learning to tweak it by offering it to your people and probably having those mistakes. Be what I’ve caught what I’ve heard the home edit girls call a u issue. That means that it’s something that just affects you, but no one else and I certainly know that I know there are still.

Rebecca: It’s that I have for my work that our main issue. No one else would really care. No one else really care. But I can tell that that’s a yellow gold foil in my graphic design rather than a rose gold. I have standards like that roll. My eyes have preferences. Usually I can pick up a missing full stock from a mile away. But there may issues and yes, I try to make sure that my work is at a certain standard all the time because people pay good money for it. But at the same time, if there’s some tiny mistake that I haven’t picked up, it’s not the end of my business. It’s certainly not the end of my attempts to continue to put work out into the world.

Rebecca: When it didn’t sell, it had nothing to do with the content module. It had everything to do with the fact that I didn’t know how to sell online.

Rebecca: But I, for a time thought that my foray into online business was over. I was convinced that that product had to be the product that worked and by worked I mean, that created a sustainable business for me. It absolutely did not. It didn’t, didn’t sell it failed. But the thing I’ve learned about this fear about creating products that don’t sell is that we all do, every single person that you admire or want to emulate or watch out there in the online space has created products that have been a failure in terms of their sales or products that have not resonated with their audience that they thought was going to be successful. me included, and some products are excellent. They just need a particular tweak so that they resonate. And your audience recognises that they need that particular thing. It doesn’t mean that the product itself is not useful. You can also create products that you just lose interest in over time.

Rebecca: And if you decide that you’re going to wrap up all your results and your assessment of whether something’s been a success in one product, then my theories for you that you’ll end up placing too high expectations on this particular little product. And then the fall from that level. If it doesn’t work out, it’s hard.

Rebecca: It’s a really hard fall. And because I’ve been there, the thing that I now know is that I’m attached to producing good quality.

Rebecca: Work that makes a difference in people’s lives. But the results of each product that I create, do not define who I am as a person, do not define my worth, do not define the quality of my overall work do not define my future success in business, or the other ideas I come up with. They just simply are what they are. And sometimes there’s so many unpredictable things out there that happen in the world, on social media, and simply just at the time that you’re selling, that you can’t control, that it’s about being able to understand that each offer that you make to your audience is part of your journey. In business, it’s part of your journey and making an impact. But it’s not the end. It’s not the be all and end all. And that’s what I learned around that fear.

Rebecca: To let go to detach a little bit more, so that my office can stand by themselves without me breathing down their necks.

Rebecca: I’ve also been really scared of not keeping up with the algorithm, particularly on Instagram, Instagram is where most of my audiences, and in the beginning of my time on Instagram, I was obsessed with getting followers. I did an Instagram course, which showed me how to grow an Instagram page, which I did with my happy habits page, I no longer manage that page anymore. It’s not mine.

Rebecca: And I found that the effort that I was putting into growing that page just really didn’t make me feel connected.

Rebecca: Instead, what I wanted to do was have a page where I didn’t pay attention to growth at all, and instead, I just paid attention to offering my work in a way that fit for me, rather than being able to follow the app algorithm and then social media changes that happen across platforms. And that’s what I’ve done with Dr. Rebecca Ray, my page on Instagram, I’ve never used what might be called growth hacking techniques on that page. And in fact, I think I haven’t grown in more than 1000 followers in about eight months.

Rebecca: My following I’ve lost followers and gained followers at about the same rate for about eight months on Instagram so that my following hasn’t grown. And you might be sitting there and saying, well back, perhaps you should do something about that. But you know what?

Rebecca: It’s not. Number one, it’s not my zone of genius anymore. It’s not where I want to be spending my time fixing my response to an algorithm that I can’t control, but also my business has been more successful this year than it’s ever been in my time in business. And so what that shows me is that my six sets.

Rebecca: According to the Instagram algorithm is not at all attached to my followers, or my following, and how that rises and falls. And as I’ve changed my relationship with social media, what that means is yes, I show up and I show up consistently, because it’s important for me to be there for my audience. But it also means that if I have to take a break for a few days, or a week, or a couple of weeks, or even a month, also, which I have done in the past, I don’t get stressed about it, I don’t get stressed about all my goodness, this means my engagement will go down because those things I’ve discovered just don’t matter. In terms of my bottom line results. They matter in terms of my connectedness with my audience. And I’m going to talk about that in a minute and how I nurtured that, but it’s not about the numbers on social media, so I don’t particularly care about the algorithm anymore, even though I once did.

Rebecca: I used to be scared of not being good enough. Not being good enough, was something that really showed up for me when I first started putting my work out into the world and I would measure the worthiness of by work by sales.

Rebecca: And that fear in and of itself has not done me any bit of good when it comes to sustainability, especially psychological sustainability in business. Because what you might be getting from now is that business is so much less around what you do, then is around how you think business is mindset. Yes, there’s a bit of strategy involved, but the strategy in and of itself is not difficult. Maintaining the mindset that you need in order to continue showing up it’s the hard part.

Rebecca: And like everyone else, just because I’m a psychologist, doesn’t mean I’m immune to not feeling good enough. I’ve also been scared of shame.

Rebecca: During my life publicly, in my training as a psychologist, way, were trained very much to make sure that we’re a blank canvas with clients. And so sharing my life publicly had not been something that I did in clinical practice, or at least did very little of, I certainly didn’t have any social media profiles, not even for my personal life. It was an unfamiliar skill. I didn’t have the skill of sharing my life, certainly not in an online way. And I was really frightened about it, mainly because of my training and my training was that you only ever self disclosed in the services of helping the client in that moment. And self disclosure was to be minimal. And here I was in the online world where if you don’t share, you can’t fully connect with your audience.

Rebecca: So I can still say that in 2020, doing this for some years now. I’m finding with the line ease around my fear of sharing publicly because where is my fear of sharing publicly was defined around not being a competent psychologist, if I did too much of that, it’s now defined about how much connection do I want to have with my audience. And I never want to make my audience feel disconnected from me or like they don’t know me. So I’m still finding the line where I share enough to feel comfortable. But I don’t share so much that I feel like my personal life is on display because that’s also not about who I am or what I do. I’m very much here for you. But I want you to understand the parts of my story that are perhaps relevant to your own journey, and how that can help. And that’s meant I need to find a new line, a new boundary. And I’ve been redefining that boundary for some time.

And I think I’ve, where that boundary sits. But I’m also open to that boundary evolving as I evolve. I’ve been scared of not giving enough content as part of my courses and offerings. And oh my goodness, lovely ones. Please, please, please understand that this fear was absolutely completely unfounded. In fact, what that’s meant is I’ve tended to over deliver in the past, I’ve tended to cram my courses with so much content that my students get into them and go, Oh, my goodness, there’s so much here and they become overwhelmed and they don’t finish them. So as we speak, I have changes and updates planned for my courses around streamlining the content, so it’s not so overwhelming. What I can say is I’ve learned from that fear that the more content you throw at students, the more likely you are to overwhelm them and not help them get the results that they’re out to get in their lives.

Rebecca: More does not necessarily mean better, it can be the best quality content that you can possibly create in the history of the world. And yet, it doesn’t mean that your audience necessarily wants that level of content or can even manage that level of content in terms of where they’re at. And that’s what I’ve learned. I’ve learned that there’s a lot of things that I can probably tell you about the topics that I speak on.

Rebecca: But whether or not you’re at that particular place where you can hear those things and receive those things in order to make tangible change in your life, is probably not necessarily the case. And so I need to be mindful of not throwing everything I have at you. And that’s what I’ve learned from that fear is the fear tells me I need to give you more when actually to get the best results. I need to streamline and give you just what you need at that particular time in your life.

Rebecca: I’ve also been scared about my goals being tied to money.

Like it somehow makes me greedy. Or it makes me a person who’s materialistic or it makes me someone that’s not consistent with who I want to be. At the very beginning, I didn’t want to connect the fact that my goals were tied to money to my business. And now that fear has been well and truly left behind. Because I fully believe, and I’m fully comfortable with the idea that the more money I make, the more good I can do in the world. And I actually think it’s really important for women in particular to talk about money, and the fact that we need it because it makes the world go around, but we also need it in order to be able to make an impact. So I am completely comfortable with my goals being tied to money now.

Rebecca: They’re also tied to other things like how many people I can help. How much meaning I feel like I’m living on a daily basis.

Rebecca: This, and bucket list things that I dream of doing in the world. But absolutely, my goals are tied to money because I want my life to be worth something in terms of the legacy I leave in terms of the lives that I help, and in terms of creating a dream life for my wife and my son.

Rebecca: Now, to do that, I need to be able to put food on the table. But beyond that, I need to be able to reach a certain level of income so that I can make that impact. And you know what, I’m not frightened of that anymore.

Rebecca: I don’t think it makes me any less feminine. I don’t think it makes me any less of a psychologist or someone that’s in a helping profession. In fact, I think it’s the most sensible approach I can take in order to be able to see those goals actually come to fruition. And I think it speaks a lot to the world that we live in that. Well even have a fee like that in the first place, and how we are raised as women to often avoid money, or to look like it’s somehow dirty or not connected to doing good in the world.

Rebecca: All of these fears could have resulted in business ending self sabotage. Luckily, they only held me back a little before I did the work I needed to get out of my own way.

Rebecca: And if you need a helping hand to get out of your own way as well, lovely ones I’ve got you. Please go to Rebecca forward slash free and sign up for my free masterclass called stop self sabotage and start living your bravest life. I believe in you and the impact that you can make, and it’s time that you started making that impact because your audience needs you to.

Rebecca: I hope you’ve enjoyed this.

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